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frogspawn

my frogspawn, for the first time ever, dropped off some of its flesh on the bottom on nearby live rock. since it's the first time ever, i have to ask if it's normal. is this normal? has anyone seen this?

i know leather trees (kenya trees typically) drop off leaves and start a new colony. has anyone seen LPSs of Euphyllia family drop it's leaves or has it been cut by other inhabitants - i.e. fish or inverts...? I'm thinking of the latter but wanted to make sure...

thx

Jay
 

Phyl

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I've had my clowns pull a piece off, but I don't know that mine have ever dropped bits off that were able to grow.
 
I've had many pieces of frogspawn drop off from stress, trauma, and disease. Have seen it from other side of spectrum where pieces dropped off for asexual reproduction. I have not been able to create a new colony from any of these polyps. The longest I was able to keep an ejected polyp was about 2.5 weeks but no skeleton formed and no growth was exhibited.
 
I found a small piece in my tank about 8 months ago or maybe a little longer. I don't know whether it fell off or was torn off by a fish or something else. By the time I got to it (about a month or two later) it had a very small skeleton. I glued the skeleton to a frag disk and it has since grown enough to cover the entire disk. It's doing very well and is close to a year old. To me this was an easy successful frag :)
 
hmmm... varying results from diff folks. i dun think i'm going to try to save it but was curious to see if frogspawn drops off pieces of polyps. i guess it's possible based on this reading. it's also possible the fish or crab can clip off pieces obviously....

thx everyone.
Jay
 
Jay,

I wouldn't say the results were mixed. I just never bothered trying to get anything out of a polyp that was ejected. Most of the time, it would get lost to a powerhead or sucked in by overflow. Other times it got buried in the sand. The polyp stayed colored and healthy so it is possible given enough time that a skeleton would form. I don't need to culture these polyps as my frogspawn pieces grow faster than I know what to do with. I got one that is sprouting about 6 new heads at the moment with a huge bubble that has been there for the last 8 weeks. Still waiting for a head to come from there. I am sure a new frag/colony can come from an ejected polyp but with the growth rate of these guys, I would say why bother. On a slow growing coral, I might experiment a little more but you know I already have so many experiments going.
 
i see with a litter effort they could be raised but..... key is giving it some extra attention that you or i don't usually have with family and other things....

thx
jay
 
I think it does take some effort but not much. I would imagine all you would need to do is to grab it and put it in isolation in a fuge. Like I said, I don't bother as my main colonies grow quick enough. There is no reason to try to culture one polyp that might take a year to form a skeleton.
 
I have heard that Frogspawn will shed if inadequate light and lack of food. Try dosing with some cycopeze with all pumps off. Mine go crazy for it.
 
Trigger,

You're refering to polyp bailout which is when a coral is stressed/dying and is using it as a last resort to survive. I think Jay was referring to budding which happens quite often on a healthy frogspawn. Kenya tree and xenia are famous for doing this.
 
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