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"Japanese style" aquascaped and/or 'minimalist' reef tanks
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Phyl said:
agreed.
However, it is easier to siphon out detritus in the sump without worrying what corals you're gonna break, or corals you get to move around etc etc. Also, having the liverock in the sump provides a safe haven for copepods and other food organisms for the tank inhabitants in the future; more like a Liverock refugium.
Hawkeye said:
Yes and no, but yes.
Yes you should be able to, but no you can't just turn around and do it..... Yes in the long run once you have acclimated the tank to the regimen you plan on putting in place. Slow changes is good....nothing good ever happens when you want something instantaneous no matter who you are. This is another reason why I strongly believe in home raised and grown corals. They are able to somewhat take the changes we throw at them in our closed systems. The longer the captive lineage, the better the survival rate IMO. Honestly, i have thrown so many things at my corals from large temp swings in the summer (4-6 degrees +/-) to same day salinity changes from 1.021 to 1.026 to changes in lighting to draining the tank halfway and leaving them exposed (just like in the wild minus the warm temperatures and 100% humidity in the tropics); I am surprised at their resiliency
I'm not a big fan of the 1st setup.....but the other 2 are really cool.
I have never thought about setting up a minimalist reef tank....but it does have an interesting sound and appeal to it.
I find the last 2 very visually stimulating....almost calming in a way.
The one tank makes me think of an underwater banzai tree
I have never thought about setting up a minimalist reef tank....but it does have an interesting sound and appeal to it.
I find the last 2 very visually stimulating....almost calming in a way.
The one tank makes me think of an underwater banzai tree
So I found the article now that I am home and will be quoting form that. He has a 50 g display and 24g sump with 8.5 pounds of live rock for the whole system. He does have a live sand bed but it does not look deep. He has 100 different types of coral, sps mostly, and 40 fish, mostly small. He runs a bubble king skimmer, Zeovit filter, carbon, kalk, and does weekly 10% water changes. I wish I could show you the pictures the tank is amazing, it is is the March/April Coral magazine.
found another one on RC, courtesy of apinun
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1598287&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1598287&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
concept3 said:found another one on RC, courtesy of apinun
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1598287&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
Wow - is that a full grown emperor angel? I thought those weren't reef safe? I guess like all fish - it's individual behavior.
If you go see Feng At Red Sand in green brook area he has set his big L shaped tank up in his fashion. Looks great to see it in person.
I finally got to see these tanks. Work blocks most photo hosting sites.
I've got to be honest, I hate them all except Merv's; as reef tanks.
They are interesting art forms, cool displays to sell individual colonies, but totally unnatural.
Just one more reefing trend I'm out of step with I guess! ;D (Which makes sense since they use all the reef technologies I avoid as well.)
I've got to be honest, I hate them all except Merv's; as reef tanks.
They are interesting art forms, cool displays to sell individual colonies, but totally unnatural.
Just one more reefing trend I'm out of step with I guess! ;D (Which makes sense since they use all the reef technologies I avoid as well.)
Nice Photoshop skills! I must say that I like the tank as you have it now better...but so what? You have to enjoy your tank however you like it!
My tank is the polar opposit of these shown here, heavy in live rock in the main display tank with no addtional filtration or sump other then the Skimmer, I was wondering if I could plum my tank to another one and set the new one like these "japanese" style tanks, and basically use my existing tank as the "filter" for the new display thus keeping both styles of tank in one system?
Any ideas or comments?
Thanks! Rod
My tank is the polar opposit of these shown here, heavy in live rock in the main display tank with no addtional filtration or sump other then the Skimmer, I was wondering if I could plum my tank to another one and set the new one like these "japanese" style tanks, and basically use my existing tank as the "filter" for the new display thus keeping both styles of tank in one system?
Any ideas or comments?
Thanks! Rod
blange3 said:
As I was reading this thread I thought I was going to be the only one to think this!
They are interesting, and attractive, but don't look like a reef. I like a very natural look and will even let my corals grow into one another. It's the way of the reef, and if one coral takes over some of the next, so be it...
I still don't get the whole bare bottom thing... the ocean isn't bare bottom... I like my sand!
That said, we are all in this hobby for different reasons, so if you like the look of these, go for it! It's your corner of the reef!
beerfish said:
Hey I'm starting to really like this guy. ;D
I use to say the same thing about the ocean, until one of the preasenters at our first frag swap stated that most of the ocean is hard bottom. Boy were there reefers all over my case that day!
But the corals I like come from the sandy side of the reef, so I stick with sand!Merv, I think your photoshop reef will look sweet and be one of the best minimalist reefs out there. It's just not the kind of reef that my buddy Jack and I like to spend long hours staring at.
i've had sand for the last 4 years, but am currently setting up my 125 b.b. i can't wait for the ease of cleaning, it doesn't look at natural, but i painted the bottom side of the bottom glass black so hopefully it won't stand out too much.
blange3 said:beerfish said:
Hey I'm starting to really like this guy. ;D
I use to say the same thing about the ocean, until one of the preasenters at our first frag swap stated that most of the ocean is hard bottom. Boy were there reefers all over my case that day!
Merv, I think your photoshop reef will look sweet and be one of the best minimalist reefs out there. It's just not the kind of reef that my buddy Jack and I like to spend long hours staring at.
Funny I was just thinking... I've gotta meet this guy! 8)
Ok... good point about the majority of the ocean, but since everywhere I've ever been diving, and every reef I've ever seen has sand... I stick with what is natural in their enviornment!
Damn... now you guys have me thinking about that carnation coral tank..... I'll have to post my plans for it.
okay- so the majority says leave it as it is- thanks for the compliments. I still have the itch however, and I think I will go ahead and make some changes, not as drastic as originally planned however.
As far as sand in a reef- I totally agree. I went with bare bottom because my corals which are all SPS (okay, minus one echinata and a rescue frogspawn) require very strong water movement and having sand will not allow me to do so. Secondly, I like to wet skim and I let the tank go for weeks at a time with no major maintenance. Put it this way, I hated vaccuming the sand when I had a sand bed many moons ago. Wet skimming allows me to export the copious amounts of nutrients from the breakdown of food I like to feed my tangs/fish and the detritus which collects at the bottom in a "sweet spot" enables me to extract it much more efficiently, thereby getting the low nutrient system that my corals need (so I hope)
As far as sand in a reef- I totally agree. I went with bare bottom because my corals which are all SPS (okay, minus one echinata and a rescue frogspawn) require very strong water movement and having sand will not allow me to do so. Secondly, I like to wet skim and I let the tank go for weeks at a time with no major maintenance. Put it this way, I hated vaccuming the sand when I had a sand bed many moons ago. Wet skimming allows me to export the copious amounts of nutrients from the breakdown of food I like to feed my tangs/fish and the detritus which collects at the bottom in a "sweet spot" enables me to extract it much more efficiently, thereby getting the low nutrient system that my corals need (so I hope)
JRWOHLER said:
I was thinking about that, but the *&#^%@ wrasses have been making a mess with the pyrex bowl + sand I placed in the tank. I'm thinking of ganking it completely and have them sleep in the rockwork like some other wrasses I've had in the past. It seems like they just like to fan sand around for some reason..... now I think it's really time to redo the tank. I'm making water this week. Doing this thing in one week as soon as I get 150 gallons of water cycled and equalized!
concept3 said:blange3 said:
thanks for the compliment Bill, but ummmmmm I guess you won't like what I photoshopped around to see how I want the new layout to look like....
I plan on scraping the back glass so the black background shows again.....
Merv,
It has a very clean look but, I much rather see it with rocks. Will you be putting all the rock in your sump or completely get rid of it?