Need Some help designing plumping for my new 265

[Edwardw771]

Any one out there willing to help will some plumbing for my new 265. The biggest thing I need to figure out is how to get the water to the sump when the sump (100 gallon Rummermaid) is higher than the tank. Maybe I'll have to get the sump I won at the swap after all.

The 265 will be on a 36 inch stand. Here are some pics.

 

[MikeNapoli]

Ed,

I don't see how the sump(rubbermaid) will be higher than the tank. The sump is on the floor and the tank will be built into that hole in the wall. The tank looks higher. Am I missing something.

-Mike.

P.S. I wouldn't mind stopping by to take some pics of the plumbing and hang out.

 

[Edwardw771]

with the corner over flows being at under the tank they will be at about 30 inches. 36 - 2 by 6. The rubbermaid is at least 30 inches tall.

Come on over we are usually working in the basement on the weekends. Ive been trying to get some good pics of my corals for awhile.

 

[roadking05]

Sawzall the rubbermaid. I saw you in the picture with it, do you know how to use it? :-X

 

[MikeNapoli]

Can you drill the Rubbermaid and use an external pump?

I'm off on Sundays.. if your around pm me your cell and i'll bring my camera .. i'll take a bunch of photos like I did for Bill.

 

[Brian]

Is that rubbermaid raised off the ground? That should be something else you should consider, basement floors get cold, it would probably help your electricty bill a little!

Depending on how much of a dip the drains have to take, it might not matter that much, a little U bend will probably help the drains a little.

 

[mladencovic]

with the corner over flows being at under the tank they will be at about 30 inches. 36 - 2 by 6. The rubbermaid is at least 30 inches tall.

Come on over we are usually working in the basement on the weekends. Ive been trying to get some good pics of my corals for awhile.

I don't think that you have a big problem at all. What only matters is how high will be the level of TOP of the water in the overflow from TOP of the water in the sump. As long as that height difference is positive, you will have a flow, and it is completely immatrial where is the bottom of the overflow or the tank. The ONLY problem is that your flow might be significantly reduced for two reasons:
a) the potential energy of the water (energy resulting from the height difference of top levels in sump and overflow) is relatively small, which will result in smaller kinetic energy (flow).
b) kinetic energy of the water (flow) will be reuduced by the piping along the path. The piping will be longer and will probably have bends and elbows, and each of them is reducing the flow.

I know it is probably too late now, but have you considered placing the tank 48" high, instead of 36"? I find that height much more natural and convinient (lets say that corals are 5-15" off the bottom of the tank, then they are at the perfect viewing angle - right in front of your eyes, or slightly lower). Of course, I understand that there might be othr constraints that would prevent you from placing the tank higher.

 

[Carlo]

I pretty much agree with mladencovic on all points.

It should still work but not optimally. It should be good enough.

Ed if you want some help with the plumbing let me know and I can stop by.

Carlo

 

[Jcurry@wesketch]

You won't have a problem with the flow it will still drain just fine. The only issue will be the water left in the pipe when the pump shuts off. If you want to be able to drain that pipe use a P trap with a clean out. Replace the clean out with a small ball valve. They are easy to find in the plumbing section of the HD or lowes.