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Drs Fosters is cheaper the PA unless they will ship it for our group buy. I can tell you though that the little bit more that you might spend buying caribsea vs some other sand is well worth not having to worry about what "might" go wrong.

Re: My Oceanic Tech 120 and a request for input. Hey Phil it was great meeting you, Jim, Baxter, Rob, and all the rest of the folks. Thanks for all putting in so much time to make the event as great as it was. I will post some pics tomorrow. As a side note after seeing all the corals out there...

I would guess your fish died and is in the tank somewhere.

Sorry I didn't get there till after noon. I heard you were looking for me and I bugged a bunch of people (all the tall ones) to see if it was you. I will have more for you guys sorry. I live in Little Silver and trave up to Woodbridge and over to Dunellen if either of you guys are along that...

Sump looks great nicely organized.

I will bring you a bag also no problem.

Nice Mick are you coming to the swap tomorrow? Maybe you can win some lights ;D.

Sort of in between. Drs Fosters has great shipping on sand, I went with 3 to 1 base and live sand. Shipping for 160 lbs was less then 20 bucks plus I ordered some other stuff. Shipping from anyone else is just out of hand. I just didn't think the risk reward for any other sand was worth it...

Very very nice...lucky you had someone for the stand too.

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I won't know until I pack it up Saturday,is a sandwich bag enough?

Matt if for some reason you caanot find or whatever just PM me and I will brig it.

Me too let me know.

Harlequinreef very nice very unique too. Did you do the tank yourself?

I think it would be pretty cool putting corals on it would be an added bonus.

Smaller Octopus would probably work depending on size. http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=Octopus

For what it is worth..I placed some pond liner(rubber mat) under my pump(mag 12) and I cannot hear it. I see some of them come with a foam pad and some don't in any case if you don't have one then give something a try. I read that as a criticism of the pumps.

I have heard good things about their work...I don't know about the skimmer though. Here is the sump/refugium that I had built 36x18 I bought the sump here. http://www.protein-skimmer.com/shopping.asp?key=&pg=2&id=446996&saleid=&shopperid=104948&merchantid=446996&catid=946&shop=itemlist.asp...

Just a thought since you seem to be handy...how about drilling two rocks the size of you returns in the front? I think Tunze has fake rock like that. Since you have a unique design I think it would make it less distracting IMHO.

Thanks Pete appreciate the input. :) Hope it works.